He's vice president and chief culture officer at the insurance giant Chubb, and diversity, equity, and inclusion work falls under his remit. Page used an example of walking into a room of people and giving them all a pair of size 10 shoes. So I really came to this work as a business leader with a lot of experience running a business. There are a few instances where there's important business information that you need to impart, and you may have a difficult time getting the attention of leadership. I think the challenge around this is that if you're really committed to your view on this, then you have to find a different way.

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